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Using bananas to feminize your seeds

chrizzg2121
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I read this on some other website sounds pretty cool wondering if anyone else has tried it

But, here is a cheap, very effective method a gardner like me would use, which I am sure some members will be familiar with. An organic feminising method using ripening bananas.

Before you germinate your seeds, place your seeds in a sealed plastic bag containing banana peels for 14 days. Wrap the banana skins in tissue to absorb any moisture they give off. Keep the bag in a warm place & air the seeds regularly, replacing the skins as they ripen. Ethylene, a naturally occuring gas given off by the ripening bananas causes feminisation.

Peel 2 bananas and seperate the strips. i.e you should have about 4 seperated skins from each banana.

Wrap each skin in ‘one’ layer of tissue & lay them inside a carrier bag, then lay one piece of tissue over all the skins & place the seeds on top & seal the bag & leave it in a warm place (room temp is fine).

You then need to open the bag once daily for about 20 minutes to release excess moisture, much the same as when your curing your buds.

You then need to change the skins for fresh ones every three days as they will turn brown & rotten after that.

You leave the seeds for about two weeks so youll need to change the skins 5 or 6 times.

Also read this on some other website

List of Plant Responses to Ethylene

* Seedling triple response, thickening and shortening of hypocotyl with pronounced apical hook. This thought to be a seedlings reaction to an obstacle in the soil such a stone, allowing it to push past the obstruction.

* In pollination, when the pollen reaches the stigma, the precursor of the ethylene, ACC, is secreted to the petal, the ACC releases ethylene with ACC oxidase.

* Stimulates leaf and flower senescence

* Stimulates senescence of mature xylem cells in preparation for plant use

* Inhibits shoot growth except in some habitually flooded plants like rice

* Induces leaf abscission

* Induces seed germination

* Induces root hair growth – increasing the efficiency of water and mineral absorption

* Induces the growth of adventitious roots during flooding

* Stimulates epinasty – leaf petiole grows out, leaf hangs down and curls into itself

* Stimulates fruit ripening

* Induces a climacteric rise in respiration in some fruit which causes a release of additional ethylene. This can be the one bad apple in a barrel spoiling the rest phenomenon.

* Affects neighboring individuals

* Triple response when applied to seedlings – stem elongation slows, the stem thickens, and curvature causes the stem to start growing horizontally. This strategy is thought to allow a seedling grow around an obstacle

* Inhibits stem growth outside of seedling stage

* Stimulates stem and cell broadening and lateral branch growth also outside of seedling stage

* Synthesis is stimulated by auxin and maybe cytokinin as well

* Ethylene levels are decreased by light

* The flooding of roots stimulates the production of ACC which travels through the xylem to the stem and leaves where it is converted to the gas

* Interference with auxin transport (with high auxin concentrations)

* Inhibits stomatal closing except in some water plants or habitually flooded ones such as some rice varieties, where the opposite occurs (conserving CO2 and O2)

* Where ethylene induces stomatal closing, it also induces stem elongation

* Induces flowering in pineapples

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SquishMitten
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“sounds” like a bunch of bs,

but could be legit I sure as hell don’t know. Never wrapped seeds in a banner before.

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Check this out
Treatment of seeds with ethylene gas will increase the resulting number of female plants by about 50%. Ethylene is produced by certain plants (i.e., bananas, cucumbers and melons), and these can be used to treat hempseed in a simple manner. About two weeks before you plan to sprout the seeds, place them in a paper bag, and put that in a plastic bag with the peels of a ripening banana or cucumber. Replace the peels after a couple of days, and change the bags to prevent mould.

Ethylene: One of the 5 plant hormones. The levels and ratios of these 5 hormones has a huge impact on the shape, strucutre, aroma, flavor, flowering time, and disease resistance of the plant. Hormones are the chemical messengers that allow DNA to ‘talk’ to plant tissues and determine the phenotype. Ethylene is primarily involved in flowering, sex determination, fruit ripening, and sensescence (rot). Ethylene is a simple organic molecule, C2 H4, which can also be represented as H2C=CH2.

In cannabis, female plants will produce male flowers if not enough ethylene is present, or if too much gibberellic acid is present. The intersex condition is due to a combination of genetic and environemental factors. Some plants will not turn male under the most extreme stress, and some plants, especially stretchy tropical sativas, will turn with no stress at all. It is my belief that the stress of severe inbreeding, compounded over several generations, is responsible for the majority of hermaphrodites in the drug cannabis gene pool (DCG) today.

The second is to use a hormone called ethylene, which inhibits the development of male pollen bearing flowers. Ethylene should be sprayed upon the leaves and flowers of your plants, and is commonly found in plant shops as a flower boosting agent. Ethylene has been in use for the last twenty or more years, and comes in many brand names and concentrations. Check with your local plant shop on brands and methods of using flowering agents.

TaoWolf
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Feminized seeds are the result of a female plant producing pollen and then pollinating a different female plant with that pollen to produce seeds without any Y chromosomal information.

There’s really no voodoo, transmutation, or magic that will produce feminized seeds beyond this. The chemicals/hormones that you hear about being used sometimes in this process are used on a female plant (to manipulate the production of pollen), they are not used on the seeds themselves.

Seeds are either male or female based upon whether they have two X chromosomes (females) or one X and one Y chromosome (male). Just like with people.

Another misconception and/or poor use of wording (like in the text above) is that female plants can turn male. However, a female cannabis plant can not change sex – they sometimes just become hermaphroditic (big difference). Could you cite or credit the author?

I read this on some other website sounds pretty cool wondering if anyone else has tried it But, here is a cheap, very effective method a gardner like…

Using bananas to feminize your seeds

  • Aug 7, 2007
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  • Smokin Moose
    Fallen Cannabis Warrior

    From a cannabis growers point of view, an easy way to feminise your seeds before you germinate is to use a commercial feminiser like sensa soak which contains ‘Ethylene’.

    But, here is a cheap, very effective method a gardner like me would use, which I am sure some members will be familiar with. An organic feminising method using ripening bananas.

    Before you germinate your seeds, place your seeds in a sealed plastic bag containing banana peels for 14 days. Wrap the banana skins in tissue to absorb any moisture they give off. Keep the bag in a warm place & air the seeds regularly, replacing the skins as they ripen. Ethylene, a naturally occuring gas given off by the ripening bananas causes feminisation.

    Peel 2 bananas and seperate the strips. i.e you should have about 4 seperated skins from each banana.

    Wrap each skin in ‘one’ layer of tissue & lay them inside a carrier bag, then lay one piece of tissue over all the skins & place the seeds on top & seal the bag & leave it in a warm place (room temp is fine).

    You then need to open the bag once daily for about 20 minutes to release excess moisture, much the same as when your curing your buds.

    You then need to change the skins for fresh ones every three days as they will turn brown & rotten after that.

    You leave the seeds for about two weeks so youll need to change the skins 5 or 6 times.

    I myself have never bothered with germinating my seeds in tissue or leaving them in water etc. I just plant them straight in to pots of moist compost.

    • Aug 7, 2007
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  • Bagzgroove
    New Member

    Learn something new everyday. . lol I am going to have to try this, when my strains come in. . thanks moose!

    • Aug 7, 2007
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  • New Member

    From Mago’s stolen notes:
    “Treatment of hempseed with ethylene gas will increase the resulting number of female plants by about 50%. Ethylene is produced by certain plants (i.e., bananas, cucumbers and melons), and these can be used to treat hempseed in a simple manner. About two weeks before you plan to sprout the seeds, place them in a paper bag or envelope and put that in a plastic bag with the peels of a ripening banana or cucumber. Replace the peels after a couple of days, and change the bags to prevent mold.

    Hempseed can be feminized while they are forming on the plant. Fruit peels are spread around the area for two weeks before the plants enter the flowering phase. Remove the skins when the plants begin to flower. Otherwise, treatment with Etephon will accomplish the same effect. “

    • Aug 14, 2007
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  • mr.mike
    New Member

    So, if the seed was a male, you’ll be making hermies?

    I’ve used sensa-soak maybe twenty years ago, or so. It definitely helped in hermie production.

    • Aug 14, 2007
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    • Aug 14, 2007
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  • Lord Mong
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    • Aug 14, 2007
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  • Jim Finnel
    Fallen Cannabis Warrior & Ex News Moderator

    what about starting seeds directly in bannana instead of another medium?

    my mind wanders, um wonders sometimes

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    • Aug 14, 2007
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  • whatthehellp7
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    • Aug 14, 2007
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    Smokin Moose
    Fallen Cannabis Warrior
    • Aug 26, 2007
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  • Slay3r
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    • Aug 26, 2007
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  • Urdedpal
    New Member

    Any plan or product that increases the chance of herms is not for me.
    I rather find a male and pull it out than deal with hermies.
    A very fertile herm can destroy a crop with out you noticing unless you like seeded bud.
    The key word people seem to forget is feminized meaning not all are comepletely female. Feminize seeds have always been plagued with herms and make for very poor mother plants if cloning is also in growing arsenal.

    If you decide on femming seeds make sure your grow area doesn’t get too hot and you light regiment is very strict when growing the seeds too fruitation. Of course you should do this on all grows but especially with fems. Heat, high humidity, light cycling are stress triggers for hermies.

    • Aug 30, 2007
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  • Akornpatch
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    • Sep 1, 2007
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  • mr.mike
    New Member

    Of course, the silver nitrate/ thiosulfate method will never produce ‘hermie’ seeds from a true female plant.

    As far as the banana method goes, I think you’d be better off putting the seeds inside a folded piece of screen in a big paper bag of apples, as far as ethylene production goes.

    • Sep 3, 2007
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  • New Member

    Funny you should say that, as I was just reading:
    USDA: Hemp, Day Length And Flowering 1947

    Pubdate: 1947
    Source: The Yearbook of Agriculture; 1943-1947, United States Department of Agriculture
    Author: H.A. Borthwick, USDA Senior Botanist in the Bureau of Plant Industry, Soils, and Agricultural Engineering
    Pages: 282-283

    DAY LENGTH AND FLOWERING – HEMP

    New practices that can be used in breeding hemp have resulted from recent photoperiodic studies. Hemp is a short-day plant. It flowers promptly when day lengths are less than 14 hours and very slowly or not at all when day lengths are greater than 14 hours. Under average field conditions about half of the plants are female and half are male. Under some circumstances, however, female plants, each of which may produce a very large number of female flowers, will also produce a few typical male flowers. The opposite condition occurs in the males; that is, a male plant will form an occasional female flower in addition to a great number of male flowers. This tendency for hemp plants to produce these extra flowers of the opposite sex is increased by subjecting them to photoperiods of 14 hours or less and to cool nights when flowers are being formed.

    Most rapid progress in breeding plants can be made with those that can be self-pollinated. Hemp, obviously, can be self-pollinated only when it produces these occasional additional flowers of the opposite sex. The advantage of being able to increase their tendency to form these flowers is apparent.

    Dr. Hugh C. McPhee of the Department made use of this behavior of hemp several years ago. He used the pollen of the male flowers that were produced in small numbers on certain of the female plants to self-pollinate those plants. When he grew the resulting seeds he made the important discovery that all of the plants were female. We have recently produced several thousand seeds in this way and have not obtained a single male plant, thus thoroughly confirming Dr. McPhee’s observations.
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    From a cannabis growers point of view, an easy way to feminise your seeds before you germinate is to use a commercial feminiser like sensa soak which…